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WDW Fanboys Blog – 12/15/2012 – Fastpass+ (Part 3)

Another round of Fastpass+ testing has begun and thanks to Gary Hall of the WDWKingdomcast Podcast I’ve been able to play around on the site. In this round, the newest option is that Hollywood Studios is now available as a Fastpass+ park in addition to the Magic Kingdom.

Their Fastpass+ day was for today, December 15th. At approximately 10:30, the following day of attractions were unavailable through Fastpass+:

  • Main Street Electrical Parade
  • Celebrate a Dream Come True Parade
  • Toy Story Mania (this appeared and re-appeared when I logged in and logged out)

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Main Street Electrical Parade Not Available

New Fantasyland has opened since the last test so the split of attractions in the Magic Kingdom has been modified. Guests are able to select two Fastpass+ experiences in either of the two groups:

Group 1 (Choose 2):

  • Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
  • Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
  • Disney Princesses at Town Square Theater
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle
  • Main Street Electrical Parade
  • Mickey Mouse at Town Square Theater
  • Peter Pan’s Flight
  • Space Mountain
  • Splash Mountain
  • Wishes Nighttime Spectacular

Group 2 (Choose 2):

  • Celebrate a Dream Come True Parade
  • Dumbo the Flying Elephant
  • Haunted Mansion
  • Jungle Cruise
  • Mickey’s PhilharMagic
  • Monster’s Inc Laugh Floor
  • The Barnstormer
  • The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
  • Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid

Surprising omissions are as follows:

  • Pirates of the Caribbean
  • it’s a small world
  • Tomorrowland Speedway

Over at Hollywood Studios, guests can chose one experience from Group 1, and two experiences from Group 2. The distribution for Hollywood Studios is as follows:

Group 1 (Choose 1):

  • Lights, Motors, Action! Extreme Stunt Show
  • Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster
  • Toy Story Midway Mania

Group 2 (Choose 2):

  • Disney Junior – Live on Stage!
  • Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular
  • Muppet*Vision 3-D
  • Star Tours
  • The American Idol Experience
  • The Great Movie Ride
  • The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
  • Voyage of the Little Mermaid

Surprising omissions are as follows:

  • Beauty and the Beast – Live on Stage
  • Studio Backlot Tour
  • The Legend of Captain Jack Sparrow
  • Fantasmic!

I selected the Magic Kingdom and the following attractions:

  • Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
  • Wishes Nighttime Spectacular

At this point the website gives you four different distribution of times, the most preferred distribution also removed Wishes Nighttime Spectacular and replaced it with Disney Princesses at Town Square Theater. The distribution was as follows:

  • Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid (12:20 PM – 1:20 PM)
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle (1:30 PM – 2:30 PM)
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (2:40 PM – 3:40 PM)
  • Disney Princesses at Town Square Theater (4:35 PM – 4:35 PM)

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Magic Kingdom Reservations

The good:

  • The first three attractions have a pretty tight cluster of time.
  • I was able to choose attractions close to one another
  • There was plenty of availability even day of

The bad:

  • The experiences don’t take a full hour to complete so unless I start at around 1:10 at Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid there is still going to be down time between every attraction
  • I didn’t have the option to include Wishes with my early afternoon cluster of attractions
  • I was unable to hand pick specific times for specific attractions. I was only given an option of all attractions at once.

You have the option to change out individual attractions, and that option was available for every attraction in that group except for Disney Princesses at Town Square Theater, the one attraction I didn’t select. The way this change of attraction should work is that you can select another option in that group, but it’s really inconvenient that I couldn’t replace the single attraction I didn’t chose.

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Step 1 Change: Disney Princesses in Town Square Theater
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Step 2 Change: Not Available
The other large concern about this is that these tests are being done on a small scale where distribution is a bit more controlled. When Fastpass+ has a wider scale implementation, I wouldn’t expect the same availability day of. Speculation has it that attractions can be reserved 60-180 days in advance. While the end game of this is unknown I still remain very skeptical that this will be anything other than a total disaster.



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WDW Fan Boys Podcast Episode #154 11/18/2012 – Fantasyland

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On this week’s episode of the WDW Fan Boys Podcast, we discuss New Fantasyland as well as “Old” Fantasyland. The discussion ranges from the fantastic theming of the Beauty and the Beast and Little Mermaid areas to the infrequency in which the Friar’s Nook operates.

 

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WDW Fanboys Blog – 05/25/2012 – Fastpass+ (Part 1)

A few months ago we spoke with friend of the show, Jim Hill about some of the Next Gen projects going on at Walt Disney World. One of the main topics that we discussed was a new attraction reservation system that at the time was referred to as xPass and is now referred to as Fastpass+. You can listen to the episode here.

Since this show aired, Disney began testing some of the components of the Fastpass+ system with random tests conducted at the Magic Kingdom between May 1st and May 15th.  Disney would approach guests as they waited to board the Magical Express bus at Orlando International Airport and they would help those guests schedule up to 4 attractions for a day of their trip.  They would have to adhere to the schedule that the Disney cast member set up for them, but they would have guaranteed Fastpasses for those 4 attractions days before they ever set foot in the park.

At this time, we really only know what is being considered but there is plenty to speculate about it.  The test included the following attractions:

  • Jungle Cruise
  • Splash Mountain
  • Peter Pan’s Flight
  • Mickey’s PhilharMagic
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
  • The Haunted Mansion
  • Space Mountain
  • Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin

This list includes 6 of the 8 currently active Fastpass attractions as well as two interesting additions: The Haunted Mansion and Mickey’s PhilharMagic.  Both attractions previously used Fastpass but it was regarded as unnecessary due to their larger capacity.  The new interactive queue for The Haunted Mansion is actually configured now to better accommodate a Fastpass lane, but potential bottlenecks do exist by using Fastpass on a high capacity attraction like The Haunted Mansion.

Rumors point to more Magic Kingdom attractions being added to the full scale implementation of Fastpass+.  The attractions rumored to include Fastpass+ are as follows:

  • Town Square Theater Meet and Greet
  • Pirates of the Caribbean
  • It’s a Small World
  • Stitch’s Great Escape
  • The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
  • Monster’s Inc Laugh Floor
  • Tomorrowland Speedway
  • Dumbo the Flying Elephant
  • Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid (Opening Late 2012)
  • The Seven Dwarf’s Mine Train (Opening Late 2013/Early 2014)
  • The Barnstormer Featuring the Great Goofini
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle

Additionally, premium viewing for parades and fireworks are also being considered:

  • Celebrate a Dream Come True Parade
  • Main Street Electrical Parade
  • Wishes Nighttime Spectacular

Admittedly, we don’t know everything about this new system but there are many that feel that this will be the end of any spontaneity in the parks.  The counter argument is that very few aspects of a Disney vacation are spontaneous, so the ability to guarantee a spot in an attraction certainly has it’s benefits.  In the Next Gen podcast episode Jim Hill highlighted the possibility of parents filling in some information about their family before hand so that it can be used later by characters in meet and greets.  The hope being that it will create a truly magical moment for the children.  Kids will be amazed that Mickey Mouse knows where they’re from or what their dog’s name is.  All of this is great in theory but many have speculated that it will come at a cost, and that cost seems to be an uber scheduled day at the parks.  Perhaps this Fastpass+ system would work better if it’s used solely for these interactive meet and greet experiences.

So with respect to this “end of spontaneity” argument, there is a significant amount of information that is currently available that all seems to be linked to the future of the Fastpass+ program.  Back in March Disney began enforcing return times on their current Fastpass system.  Previously, when guests acquired a Fastpass that said return time between 12:00 PM – 1:00 PM, guests could return any time after 12:00 PM on the day the Fastpass was issued.  Under the new rules, guests would be allowed a 5 minute early return and a 15 minute late return but no other exceptions would be made.  This was met with significant resistance because currently Fastpasses cannot be scheduled, you are at the whim of the available return time when you reach the distribution machine.  What this can mean is that the family of 4 that has a 6:00 PM reservation at The Brown Derby could be faced with a tough choice when they arrive at the Toy Story Mania Fastpass machines only to see a 6:00-7:00 PM return time.  That family has the following options:

  • Don’t get Fastpasses and wait in a 90 minute + standby line
  • Get the Fastpasses and skip dinner, only to be charged $10 per person for not cancelling a signature dining reservation 24 hours in advance
  • Eat really quickly and miss out on the Grapefruit Cake at The Brown Derby.

The preceding is an extreme example, but one that was a 100% non-issue in September of last year when the Fastpass return window wasn’t enforced and the fee for not making a dining reservation was non-existent.  Having said all that, it’s fair to argue that both of these new policies are positive ones.  Dining reservations are easier to get now as less people are double booking them, and the Fastpass lines are reportedly shorter.

Some facts about the current Fastpass system:

  • Disney distributes Fastpasses for attractions in 5 minute intervals for a return time of 1 hour.  This is occasionally different for shows, and select attractions (Example: Soarin’ will often use 3 minute intervals).
  • The Fastpass return windows for most attractions begin 40 minutes after park opening, and will usually go to park close.  (Example: if the Magic Kingdom is open from 9 AM to 10 PM, guests arriving at Jungle Cruise at 9 AM will see the Fastpass machines distributing Fastpasses for the 9:40 AM – 10:40 AM interval and the last Fastpass interval of the day could be as short as  9:55 PM – 10:00 PM)
  • Guests can get an additional Fastpass when the return window for their preceding Fastpass opens, or 2 hours from when they acquired their previous Fastpass, whichever is sooner.  (Example 1: A Toy Story Mania Fastpass distributed at 10:00 AM may have a return time of 6:00-7:00 PM, guests would be able to get a new Fastpass for any attraction at 12:00 PM)  (Example 2: A Star Tours Fastpass distributed at 10:00 AM may have a return time of 10:45-11:45 AM, guests would be able to get a new Fastpass for any attraction after 10:45 AM)
  • Usually shows that offer Fastpass are not linked to rides that have Fastpass.  (Example: Guests are able to hold a Fastpass for Voyage of the Little Mermaid and Toy Story Mania at the same time)
  • A ticket must be used to enter the park on that day in order for it to be used in a Fastpass machine.
  • The number of Fastpasses available in every 5 minute interval is a function of that ride’s capacity.  That means that a set number of Fastpasses is available in each 5 minute interval, when that number is reached, the return time bumps up to the next 5 minute interval.
  • The return time will also bump up to the next 5 minute interval if not all Fastpasses available during the preceding 5 minute interval are distributed fast enough.  The quickest possible return time from an acquired Fastpass is 36 minutes.  (Example: at 10:04 AM, the Fastpass return time for Jungle Cruise is 10:40-11:40 AM, at 10:05 AM, the Fastpass return time for Jungle Cruise will automatically bump up to 10:45-11:45 AM if not all available Fastpasses have been distributed)
  • There is not a set number of Fastpasses that any guest can acquire on any given day.  It’s conceivable that a guest can get a Fastpass every 40 minutes if the distribution allows it.

The preceding information on Fastpass is only part of the information needed to further examine how Fastpass+ may work.  Additional information has been provided by Jim Hill through articles on JimHillMedia.com, the TEA 2010 Themed Entertainment Attendance Figures, and feedback from the May test of Fastpass+.  Individual attraction capacity information has come from a variety of sources and estimates have been used where necessary.

  • The amount of Fastpasses distributed per every 5 minute interval is not public information, but this number is estimated at 5% of an attraction’s hourly capacity.  This means that starting 40 minutes after park opening, 60% of an attraction’s hourly capacity is distributed as Fastpasses.
  • Depending on the park, attendance, and the results of the test in May it is speculated that each guest will receive access to 2-4 Fastpass+ attractions per day
  • Attendance at the Magic Kingdom in 2010 was 16,972,000 or an average of 46,499 guests per day
  • The estimated hourly capacity of the 8 current Fastpass attractions (Jungle Cruise, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Peter Pan’s Flight, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin, Space Mountain, Town Square Theater) at the Magic Kingdom is 9550 per hour
  • An average attendance day at the Magic Kingdom will see 13 hours of operation: 9:00 AM – 10:00 PM
  • A 13 hour day will have 148 Fastpass Intervals of 5 minutes each (13 hours x 12 five minute intervals per hour less 8 intervals at the start of the day)
  • With every attraction operating, the estimated maximum Fastpass distribution during a 13 hour day at the Magic Kingdom is 70,670.
  • This means that up to 56.92% of total rides on the 8 Current Fastpass attractions can be done through the Fastpass system.  Assuming that the 5% number is correct, this percentage is accurate regardless of whether or not the attraction capacity numbers are correct.  If the number changes to 4% then the percentage changes to 45.54%, and at 6% the percentage changes to 68.31%
  • The addition of the other attractions and premium entertainment viewing can potentially bring the daily Fastpass+ availability to 237,450 per day.  This would include all of the Fantasyland expansion being open as well as premium viewing for a daytime parade, a nighttime parade and a fireworks show.
  • With 46,499 guests in the park, and each guest entitled to 4 Fastpass+ attractions, 185,995 of the 237,450 available Fastpasses can be distributed via Fastpass+.
  • This would mean that 78.3% of Fastpasses could potentially be booked prior to guests entering the park.  If each guest can book 3 Fastpass+ attractions the percentage drops to 58.73% and if each guest can reserve 2 attractions the percentage drops to 39.15%.
  • The corresponding numbers are significantly less favorable at the Animal Kingdom but that is subject to change with the addition of World of Avatar.  The numbers are comparable at Epcot, and slightly more favorable at Hollywood Studios.

Essentially what all of this means is that guests could see even less “day of” Fastpass availability for marquee attractions.  Guests currently have to plan significantly if they want to experience Toy Story Mania and to a lesser extent, Soarin’.  At Toy Story Mania, Fastpasses are regularly distributed for the day by noon.  This means that at 12 PM on many days under the current system guests can no longer acquire a Fastpass for Toy Story Mania.  If Toy Story Mania Fastpasses are available to book on Fastpass+, that number could easily drop to 11 AM or even 10 AM on even the least crowded days.

There are certainly advantages to this system to those people that like to plan ahead.  What is unknown is how far in advance guests will be able to book Fastpass+ reservations.  Currently dining can be booked 180 days in advance, with marquee dining locations often unavailable at 170 days in advance.  If Disney takes a similar approach with Fastpass+, they could potentially see marquee attractions reserved 6 months in advance.  This seems unrealistic and probably unlikely.  Logic would dictate that the fairest way to reserve Fastpass+ reservations would be at check in at your resort and/or within a week of the day the guest is entering the park.  During the beginning stages of this process there will be a steep learning curve and Disney can’t expect guests to wait on the phone for 45+ minutes in hopes of having a shorter line for Space Mountain months in advance.

The problem is that by limiting the amount of Fastpass+ reservations available to 1 or 2 per guest, the guests will prioritize the marquee attractions and eliminate the benefit of adding additional attractions to the Fastpass system.  I would think the system would be most effective at reserving highly specialized experiences, perhaps even at premium meet and greet locations or premium viewing locations for fireworks and nighttime shows.  It would be an easier sell to the public if Fastpass+ only included these premium offerings and resulted in no change to the scheduling of current offerings.

However, it is unlikely that Fastpass+ will only be limited to premium experiences; it is expected that it would include the full slate of attractions mentioned previously.  The benefit of this system that appeals to me the most would be the ability to reserve specific attraction Fastpass times in a park on the day you enter that park.  This is the most fair way to utilize this system, and it will also help pacify the guests that scorned the removal of the late Fastpass return time.  In the Toy Story Mania/The Brown Derby scenario highlighted above, that same family of 4 would be able to reserve a Toy Story Mania Fastpass after dinner and not have to worry about the cancellation fee on their signature dining reservation.

There is a growing concern amongst fans that this system would mean the end of in park spontaneity.  Scheduling attractions days, weeks, or months in advance does give many people piece of mind, but it significantly hurts those people that like to have a little less structure to their day at the park.  If given the choice, I would welcome a system driven by smart phones that was available to all guests upon entering the park but not on days leading up to entering the park.  For those guests that don’t have a smart phone, a device could be rented.  This presents other potential issues:

  • Would Disney charge guests a fee or deposit to use Disney’s device for Fastpass+?
  • What percentage of guests in the park are traveling with a smart phone?
  • Would an entire group be able to use a single smart phone?
  • Would there be charging stations available to compensate for the insufficient battery life of existing smart phones?
  • What is the learning curve for utilizing the system?

The previous issues are ones that can be addressed relatively easily, but Disney will likely only get one chance to role out this system to the masses.  They need to get it right because more so than any other changes that have been made over the years, this one has the potential to be significantly disruptive.  The failure of this plan could result in many guests turning away from Walt Disney World as a source of entertainment.  The time frame for this very well may also correlate with the opening of Phase 2 of The Wizarding World of Harry Potter over at Universal Studios.  The stakes are definitely high, and while we certainly don’t know all the details there is certainly a level of skepticism that is shared by many.

References:
JimHillMedia.com:Which WDW attractions are becoming part of the xPASS experience?
TEA 2010 Themed Entertainment Attendance Figures




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WDW Fanboys Blog – 02/07/2012 – Changes Coming to Fastpass

For the past few months there have been rumblings that the Fastpass system at Walt Disney World would be changing.  Those changes came into focus today as a variety of fan communities caught wind that effective March 7th, Fastpass return times would be “strictly” enforced.  To further clarify, the apparent new policy will be to allow for guests to return 5 minutes prior to their Fastpass return time, or 15 minutes after their Fastpass return time.  No more, no less.  Previously, the rule was to allow for guests to return at any point after the opening of the return window.

This change in policy is meant to prepare guests for the upcoming “xPass” system that will allow certain resort guests to pay a premium to schedule their entire vacation in advance.  This means that guests will now be able to pay for the opportunity to schedule ride times up to 6 months in advance.  xPass will likely be used in conjunction with the current Fastpass system with the rides scheduled in advance likely deducted from the Fastpass distribution for certain time windows.

The question here is, ”What does all of this mean?”  To most guests, this won’t be a huge issue.  Most guests, were unaware that you could return outside of the scheduled return window, so to those guests this won’t matter.  However at this point it remains unknown what will happen to Fastpass distribution; it’s conceivable that it could be accelerated or decelerated as a result of this change.

To those guests that regularly took advantage of the previous policy that allowed for late returns, this change could potentially be very disruptive.  This will conceivably change touring plans entirely.  Guests will likely have to backtrack more frequently to ensure they can meet their new strictly enforced return time.  The other possibility is that Disney starts to see guests using the time between distribution and return time on their Fastpasses used for shopping instead of riding in additional rides.  At this point, it’s a significant enough change to the efficiency of the park that guest traffic patterns as a result of this change are unknown.

It’s safe to assume that for high demand Fastpass attractions like Toy Story Midway Mania and Soarin’, there won’t be a significant change.  However for attractions like Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin or Jungle Cruise Fastpass usage may decline; these attractions typicaly have return times at less than two hours from distribution, and wait times under an hour.  Often times, guests would acquire a Fastpass for an attraction like this despite a wait time of 20-30 minutes so that they could go ride something else and return with their Fastpass with a 5 minute wait.  This change could potentially eliminate or decrease that behavior.

I would also hope that a way around the return times should be the presenting of a table service receipt.  This will especially be an issue at Toy Story Mania where often times the return window can be 8-12 hours away.  A Fastpass acquired at 10 AM at Toy Story could have a return time of 7 PM.  It’s conceivable that 6 months prior to your visit, you could also have made a dining reservation at Brown Derby.  I can see a situation where people could skip their Brown Derby reservation and then be charged $10 per person, just so that they could make their Fastpass return time.  This is going to be a bloodbath at Guest Services.

Personally, I believe that the issues/changes are likely going to evolve on a case by case basis.  In a park like the Magic Kingdom where attractions are very close together, it’s far more reasonable to acquire a Peter Pan’s Flight Fastpass that’s three hours out, and still be able to spend time in the area by eating a meal and riding “it’s a small world”, The Haunted Mansion, and Mickey’s PhilharMagic during that time period.

Conversely, in the Animal Kingdom attractions like Expedition Everest are undoubtedly going to require backtracking, but that was already the case.  Unfortunately, that park is so spread out that Fastpass could be much more difficult to handle now in conjunction with shows.  It’s entirely reasonable to now have to choose between squeezing in one of Flights of Wonder, Finding Nemo the Musical, or Festival of the Lion King or making your Expedition Everest return time.  I could definitely see an increase in single ride line usage as a distinct possibility.

The other interesting thing that’s on the way is the addition of Fastpass to several existing rides.  Work is currently being done to add Fastpass to The Seas with Nemo and Friends, and it is anticipated that Fastpass will also be added to Spaceship Earth and potentially The Great Movie Ride as well.  The thought process behind these additions is less to do with demand and more to do with creating false value.  Currently in Epcot, it’s fairly reasonable to wait less than 30 minutes for every attraction in the park while only acquiring Fastpasses for Test Track and Soarin’.  As such, Fastpass is not as important in that park.  However, the existing Fastpass system will be integrated with the new pay service, xPass.  In order to give the appearance of value to guests, Disney is looking to have as many Fastpass/xPass attractions as possible, even when they are unnecessary.  Consider the ride breakdown below:

Magic Kingdom attractions with Fastpass (8): Jungle Cruise, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Peter Pan’s Flight, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Space Mountain, Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin, Town Square Theater Meet and Greet

Epcot attractions with Fastpass (5): Soarin’, Test Track, Mission: SPACE, Maelstrom, Living with the Land (seasonal)

Hollywood Studios attractions with Fastpass (5): Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, Star Tours, Toy Story Midway Mania, Voyage of the Little Mermaid (seasonal)

Animal Kingdom attractions with Fastpass (5): Expedition Everest, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Dinosaur, Primeval Whirl, Kali River Rapids (seasonal)

There are other attractions that have Fastpass machines but they haven’t been used in years, and then there are “Surprise Fastpasses” distributed for Mickey’s PhilharMagic and Carousel of Progress on a regular basis, but that’s more to do with crowd distribution than to save guests time.  Additionally during extremely busy times, the Animal Kingdom will offer Fastpass for two or three of the stage shows in the park.  Considering all that, in every park other than Epcot there are at least three attractions that require Fastpass in order to wait less than 30 minutes on most days.  This is largely why it will be added elsewhere (The Seas with Nemo and Friends and Spaceship Earth), to help foster that false value for the xPass customers.

Because the xPass system will allow guests to plan out their day up to 6 months in advance, I would hope that this can also be used for every day guests on the day they arrive.  I don’t expect this to happen, but in theory this would eliminate many guest concerns.  Consider this hypothetical situation:
Space Mountain distributes 100 Fastpasses for every 5 minute interval starting with 9:40-10:40 AM until park close.  If xPass distribution takes away from Fastpass distribution that will leave less Fastpasses for every day park guests, but the guests using xPass can pick any available time they want, not just the next available time.  This means that hypothetically this could leave 75 Fastpasses for the 1:00-2:00 PM window, but 95 Fastpasses for the 1:05-2:05 PM window.  More significantly, day guests without xPass don’t get to choose their return time, however because xPass is being integrated, this could conceivably be built into the software.  A day guest could arrive at the Space Mountain Fastpass machines at 9:00 AM.  The return time could be 9:40-10:40 AM, but that guest doesn’t want to get a Fastpass for that return time.  Instead they can look at all available return times, and they can choose the 1:00-2:00 PM for themselves and 3 other family members.  This would mean that when the Fastpass return time gets to the 1:00-2:00 PM window they would only be able to distribute 71 Fastpasses for that time because 29 have already been distributed.  The balance that could come into play would be that the guest that opts for the later Fastpass return time would also lock up the usage of their ticket for two hours instead of only locking it up for 40 minutes had they used the 9:40-10:40 return time.

If Disney anticpates their xPass guests are “smart enough” to handle scheduling their entire vacation, I would hope they are willing to accommodate the day guests in the same way.  Another way to help out these day guests would be through setting up centralized Fastpass machines in every land of every park.  A strict enforcement of Fastpass return times will result in more back tracking, but if a Fastpass for Space Mountain can be acquired in a distribution area in Adventureland, guests can work their way over to Space Mountain instead of having to first stop in Tomorrowland to acquire the Fastpass, and then returning at the set return time.  Again, this would likely require touch screen computer screens to be installed, but it seems that’s a trend that Disney is already headed towards.

Another problem is that xPass could be exploited in a way that old Fastpass system couldn’t.  What’s to stop people with the xPass system from scheduling rides at all 4 parks, or at the very least 2 or 3.  I would assume those people willing to pay for the premium service of xPass will also be very efficient in touring.  As such, park hopping has to be included as an xPass option.  But the question becomes will guests be able to schedule out their attractions in a way that they overlap?  Even just using 2 parks it can be pretty easy to have reservations at attractions in a park that the xPass guest won’t even visit.

All in all, the strict enforcement of return times helps to level the playing field amongst experienced guests and first time guests.  Those guests with more experience will still be able to efficiently use the system, but those slow moving families like the Grasseys are going to experience issues with this change.  I can anticipate this change upsetting some hardcore fan boys, and potentially result in some of those fans changing the way they vacation.  They may opt to cut out park hopping from their plans, or elect to visit Disneyland instead (there is currently no plan to make this change in California).

I won’t be visiting Walt Disney World until September, so hopefully all of the major issues are worked out before I arrive.  That trip will only be Marie and myself, so as able bodied adults, any backtracking will be less of an issue.  Where the real test will be is in a family vacation where the 9 of us are incapable of rushing any where to make a scheduled event.  I can anticipate an increase in stress as a result.

Some Fastpass Discussion Fastpass Podcasts
WDW Fan Boys Podcast Episode #002 12/20/2009 – Fastpass in the Magic Kingdom
WDW Fan Boys Podcast Episode #009 02/07/2010 – Fastpass in Epcot and Hollywood Studios

WDW Fan Boys Podcast Episode #010 02/14/2010 – Fastpass in the Animal Kingdom and the need for Fastpass




FanBoy Loyalty Program For every $1000+ in combined purchases you spend per calendar year through our Amazon link, we will give you a t-shirt of your choice. Our new shop is up and running, and we have t-shirts available with our current and classic, regular and uncensored logos. All you need to do is send us a list of the items that you purchased, we’ll verify it against our records and then we’ll send you the t-shirt of your choice.

Project Fan Boy Contest Win a chance to appear on our show in a short segment where you can talk about a topic of your choosing with us. Winners will also receive WDW Fan Boys swag, and Brett will record a custom outgoing voice mail message for you. To enter the contest send us an e-mail, video, or audio file explaining why you should be on the show. The funnier the better. All entries should be submitted to questions@wdwfanboys.com.

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